[Voyage-linux] Setup Advice

Andrew Niemantsverdriet (spam-protected)
Tue Jul 18 00:31:57 HKT 2006


Hi,

 > One possible solution is:
 >
 > Two radios in your WRAP, one 5GHz for the backhaul (Master or Managed)
 > and one 2.4GHz for the local AP.   Don't know if you have the
 > radios/antennas for an 11 mi 5GHz link.  Another option is to look into
 > the new 900MHz radios for your backhaul.

That is what I want to do. I have really big dishes for the 5ghz link 
and a good fade margin already. I also have a 2.4ghz card to act as the 
AP with a little panel antenna. What I am confused about is how to set 
the interfaces up using just one board.
 
 > Also, while not recommended by some, it is possible to run two 2.4GHz
 > radios on a single WRAP with one as backhaul and the other as AP.  Be
 > prepared for some throughput loss and absolutely run as channels 1 & 11
 > to minimize the radio interference.
 >
 > Is bridging a hard and fast requirement?  Routing will give much better
 > control over your traffic and makes things a lot easier.  I have also
 > found that if there is any problem in your bridge configuration you can
 > end up with no access via ethernet whereas a static IP on the port is
 > fairly bullet proof as far as assuring you a reliable access on reboot.

The backhaul needs to be bridged, I need to see the MAC address that are 
comming across it. I suppose I could forgo that requirment if it really 
is easier to route it. I can mess with the MAC's at the router at the 
far side of the backhaul. The AP does not need to be bridged but that is 
how I have always done it. So mostly what I need is idea on how 
everything needs to be setup maybe with an example so I can copy it and 
put in my own IP's.


 > Getting even more weird...
 >
 > If you are running POE on your wire to the roof, you could put 48v on it
 > and then do a DC-DC conversion on the roof to feed multiple WRAPs and a
 > switch.  The higher voltage would keep the current down and allow a
 > higher total power availability to handle the multiple devices on the
 > roof.
 >
 > With multiple WRAPs, you can largely avoid the interference problems
 > caused by two radios on the same board plus isolate your customers from
 > direct access to the backhaul.
 >

What I have now which is really weird is I have a 2 port WRAP running 
18v PoE acting as a router/AP then another 1 port wrap acting as the 
backhaul. It gets its power from the DC jack off of the two port wrap. 
It is not pretty and needs to be fixed up.


 >
 >> No I guess I don't really need a VPN but it is what I use to get a
 >> "true"
 >> ethernet bridge going (is there a better way?). The reason I need an
 >> access point is because the backhaul link is going to be going 11 miles.
 >> So it needs to be a dedicated link otherwise performace of the link goes
 >> down the drain. One side of the backhaul happens to be a great place to
 >> put up and AP. Normally I would just put up another WRAP board as the AP
 >> but we only have one ethernet line so that is not really an option.
 >>
 >> So here is the problem in a nut shell. I have one ethernet line to a
 >> roof
 >> top with no possbility of bringing more lines up. That roof top has line
 >> of sight to a main distribution tower that needs a wireless backhaul
 >> link
 >> to it. Also that roof top happens to be a great place for an Access
 >> point.
 >> How would you setup this link?
 >>
 >> P.S. Could you explain a little more about the madwifi VAP stuff. Maybe
 >> shoot me a quick example? I have not had time to use or learn about them
 >> yet but they sound really neat.
 >>
 >> Thanks,
 >>
 >>  _
 >> /-\ndrew
 >>
 >>
 >>>> I need to add an access point into the mix normally I would just
 >>>> bridge
 >>>> the ethernet and wlan adapter but since the ethernet adapter is
 >>>> already a
 >>>> part of the OpenVPN bridge that does not work. How would you guys set
 >>>> this
 >>>> up to have a point to point backhaul and an AP all on a Wrap.2C (1
 >>>> ethernet 2 mini pci) any help?
 >>>>
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>
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