[Voyage-linux] miniPCI express card USB disconnects when eth0 used
Teco Boot
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Fri Mar 19 15:24:34 HKT 2010
Here my lspci output
Regards, Teco
hgm-57-11:~# lspci -vv
00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] Host Bridge (rev 33)
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] Host Bridge
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 248, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Region 0: I/O ports at ac1c [size=4]
00:01.2 Entertainment encryption device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Geode LX AES Security Block
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Geode LX AES Security Block
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
Region 0: Memory at efff4000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Kernel driver in use: Geode LX AES
Kernel modules: geode-rng, geode-aes
00:09.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105M [Rhine-III] (rev 96)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. Device 0106
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 64 (750ns min, 2000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
Region 0: I/O ports at 1000 [size=256]
Region 1: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
Kernel modules: via-rhine
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6105M [Rhine-III] (rev 96)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. Device 0106
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 64 (750ns min, 2000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: I/O ports at 1400 [size=256]
Region 1: Memory at e0040000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
Kernel modules: via-rhine
00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
Subsystem: Device 0777:3002
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 168 (2500ns min, 7000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
Region 0: Memory at e0080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME-
Kernel driver in use: ath_pci
Kernel modules: ath5k, ath_pci
00:0f.0 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] ISA (rev 03)
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] ISA
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Region 0: I/O ports at 6000 [size=8]
Region 1: I/O ports at 6100 [size=256]
Region 2: I/O ports at 6200 [size=64]
Region 3: I/O ports at <unassigned>
Region 4: I/O ports at 9d00 [size=128]
Region 5: I/O ports at 9c00 [size=64]
Kernel modules: cs5535_gpio
00:0f.2 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] IDE (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [Master])
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] IDE
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 248, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1]
Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=8]
Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=1]
Region 4: I/O ports at ff00 [size=16]
Kernel driver in use: AMD_IDE
Kernel modules: amd74xx, cs5536
00:0f.4 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] OHC (rev 02) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] OHC
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 12
Region 0: Memory at efffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
Kernel modules: ohci-hcd
00:0f.5 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] EHC (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] CS5536 [Geode companion] EHC
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 12
Region 0: Memory at efffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
Kernel modules: ehci-hcd
hgm-57-11:~#
Op 18 mrt 2010, om 22:18 heeft jarl het volgende geschreven:
> Strange that your USB modules are loading in a different order than mine. On my board, first the EHCI controller is detected and loaded, afterwards the OHCI controller. I'm no expert, but I don't believe that this would be related to the problem.
>
> What do you have as base addresses for your eth0 & eth1? Is it possible to include a lspci -vv listing?
> Does anyone know who would be able to lay his technical expert-eye on this matter perhaps?
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> Jarl
> 2010/3/18 Teco Boot <teco at inf-net.nl>
> I can report similar results, with Sierra MC8700 and Alix6e2 running Voyage 0.6.5.
> I see it often 5 hours after reboot.
> I do not relate this to eth0 (in my case).
>
> Is the starting order of uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd important?
> And USB interface number?
>
> Currently, I use a watchdog script checking ttyUSB0 to ttyUSB3. When mismatch, the box is rebooted.
>
> Regards, Teco
>
>
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.848539] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.848884] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.849872] usbcore: registered new device driver usb
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.868521] ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.921315] ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 6.921764] Warning! ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after
> ==> Teco: not sure if this is important
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.734496] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0f.4: OHCI Host Controller
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.734910] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0f.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.735808] ohci_hcd 0000:00:0f.4: irq 12, io mem 0xefffe000
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.822249] usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.822952] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.823794] hub 1-0:1.0: 4 ports detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.825827] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0f.5: EHCI Host Controller
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.826884] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0f.5: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.848873] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0f.5: irq 12, io mem 0xefffd000
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.855783] ehci_hcd 0000:00:0f.5: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.857367] usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.857960] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 7.858795] hub 2-0:1.0: 4 ports detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.264802] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.380795] usb 2-2: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 7 but max is 4
> ==> Teco: not sure if this is important
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.381767] usb 2-2: config 1 has no interface number 2
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.384881] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.611789] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 8.750334] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 10.485081] udevd version 125 started
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.248557] cdc_acm 1-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.279579] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_acm
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.279781] cdc_acm: v0.26:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.329245] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.329834] USB Serial support registered for generic
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.330982] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.331764] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
>
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.526539] USB Serial support registered for Sierra USB modem
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.527818] sierra 2-2:1.0: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.530945] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.532458] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.533739] sierra 2-2:1.1: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.534414] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.535436] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB1
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.536807] sierra 2-2:1.3: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.538802] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.540345] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB2
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.541816] sierra 2-2:1.4: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.544293] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.545451] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB3
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.547158] usbcore: registered new interface driver sierra
> Jan 1 00:01:28 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 18.547766] sierra: v.1.7.30:USB Driver for Sierra Wireless USB modems
>
>
> Jan 1 00:01:35 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
> Jan 1 00:01:37 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Serial connection established.
> Jan 1 00:01:38 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Using interface ppp0
> Jan 1 00:01:38 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyUSB3
> Jan 1 00:01:39 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: CHAP authentication succeeded
> Jan 1 00:01:39 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: CHAP authentication succeeded
> Jan 1 00:01:39 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [ 70.839919] PPP Deflate Compression module registered
> Jan 1 00:01:42 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Could not determine remote IP address: defaulting to 10.64.64.64
> Jan 1 00:01:42 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: local IP address 89.200.94.41
> Jan 1 00:01:42 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: remote IP address 10.64.64.64
> Jan 1 00:01:42 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: primary DNS address 62.133.126.28
> Jan 1 00:01:42 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: secondary DNS address 62.133.126.29
>
> ==> Teco: Here and messages below, the usb device is resetted, reason unknown
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.735878] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 3
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.740222] sierra ttyUSB0: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.740969] sierra 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.743106] sierra ttyUSB1: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.743916] sierra 2-2:1.1: device disconnected
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.756382] sierra ttyUSB2: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.756883] sierra 2-2:1.3: device disconnected
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Modem hangup
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Connect time 293.9 minutes.
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Sent 1248626 bytes, received 741702 bytes.
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.772457] sierra ttyUSB3: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB3
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.772922] sierra 2-2:1.4: device disconnected
> Jan 1 04:55:33 hgm-57-22 pppd[3378]: Connection terminated.
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17704.982285] usb 2-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.099394] usb 2-2: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 7 but max is 4
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.100033] usb 2-2: config 1 has no interface number 2
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.103276] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.108907] sierra 2-2:1.0: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.112007] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.113454] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.115519] sierra 2-2:1.1: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.116684] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.117483] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB1
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.122972] sierra 2-2:1.3: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.125491] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.126598] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB4
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.129315] sierra 2-2:1.4: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.130819] usb 2-2: APM supported, enabling autosuspend.
> Jan 1 04:55:34 hgm-57-22 vmunix: [17705.132893] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB5
>
>
> Op 17 mrt 2010, om 23:01 heeft jarl het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I hope that this question hasn't been answered already 10 times, but haven't found any such reference, so I take my chance.
> >
> > When using Sierra Wireless miniPCI express modules on the Alix board with voyage 0.6.2 or 0.6.5, and only when eth0 is both up and connected, there are constant USB disconnects and reconnects from that module, as in (this is 0.6.5):
> >
> > [ 1740.985847] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x41E1
> > [ 1740.986735] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
> > [ 1741.455468] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 2
> > [ 1741.459013] sierra ttyUSB0: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
> > [ 1741.459925] sierra ttyUSB1: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
> > [ 1741.460938] sierra ttyUSB2: Sierra USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB2
> > [ 1741.461478] sierra 2-2:1.0: device disconnected
> > [ 1764.881421] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
> > [ 1765.020598] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> > [ 1765.024616] sierra 2-2:1.0: Sierra USB modem converter detected
> > [ 1765.027124] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0
> > [ 1765.028032] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB1
> > [ 1765.028945] usb 2-2: Sierra USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB2
> >
> > This is repeated until infinity (or at least that's what I suppose).
> >
> > I had contact with mr. Dornier from PCEngines, and we concluded that the Ethernet drivers possibly were to be suspected of this behaviour. The reason is that (for 0.6.2 at least), the base addresses found in ifconfig were conflicting with the addresses of other devices on the board. I can provide some documentation, but I'm not aware if it is accepted to attach files here.
> >
> > Anyone else having seen such things? I've seen this happening with MC8775 and MC8780 and MC8792V modules, so both voice and non-voice modules.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas.
> >
> > Jarl
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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