<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Rich,<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you view criticism as a put-down, that's what it will feel like. If you view it as an opportunity to go forth and learn, you might view it a lot more positively. No one expects you to know everything, but there are some things that are pretty basic with Voyage, and the entire "sync directory" concept =is= one of them. Because they store their root filesystems on flash memory, they must have some mechanism for keeping these directories from being written over and over again, or else the flash memory is worn out. Enter the "sync filesystem" concept.<br></div><div><br></div><div>"sync" directories don't =actually= exist where they are mounted in a running system. The actual data is stored in /.sync/mounted/directory/name, then a "tmpfs" is created at boot time, the contents copied into that new filesystem structure, and the files are modified there. You can either periodically "sync" back to /.sync/mounted/directory/name or the files are just copied back whenever the system is shut down. So, there is no reason to have the files in /mounted/directory/name because that directory would just be over-mounted at boot time.</div><div><br></div><div>I've been using UNIX and UNIX-like systems for about 31 years now. Yes, I've used 7th Edition UNIX, as well as some of the rarer releases, like USG UNIX 4.0, and yes, I'm an old fart. There are a lot of things I don't know about Voyage, and people tell me where to go (and what to do when I get there ...) all the time. What I don't do is complain about being told things, including "Go read more."</div><div><br></div><div>You also need to remember that many of the "old hats" at this Linux thing are professional software engineers and that we have day jobs. I run my own company, so I have a day, night, morning, weekends =and= holidays job. But you seemed to be getting nowhere, and I had some free time, so I spoke up.</div><div>--<br>Julie Haugh<br>Senior Design Engineer<br>greenHouse Computers, LLC // jfh at <a href="http://greenhousepc.com">greenhousepc.com</a> // greenHousePC on Skype</div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [Voyage-linux] issues with usb installs.<br>
From: Rich E Neese <<a href="mailto:r.neese@gmail.com">r.neese@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Sun, January 22, 2012 6:15 pm<br>
To: <a href="mailto:jfh@greenhousepc.com">jfh@greenhousepc.com</a><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:voyage-linux@voyage.hk">voyage-linux@voyage.hk</a>" <<a href="mailto:voyage-linux@voyage.hk">voyage-linux@voyage.hk</a>><br>
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For 1 I am tired of being told I am not learning. I have but 6 months<br>
into this so far and get put down at every point.<br>
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I have read the full and complete wiki wich is very little and I have<br>
spent time reading the code and find no answer. I am a BSD guy not a<br>
linux guy. I am doing my best to learn your shortcuts and the way you<br>
mount things ro/rw and soforth.<br>
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and for the most part I have spent time going over and over the code.<br>
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I have read every script in the /u/l/b/ dir related to voyage.<br>
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and very little of it is documented. once I get a full and 100 %<br>
understanding of why the cp script voyage.update uses is not grabbling<br>
the needed dir and cp the data to the thumbdrive I plan to try and fix<br>
it. and to document the whole iso in a more point to point form.<br>
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but being things are not currently well documented for this . I try my<br>
best and I have aked for very little since I started working with voyage.<br>
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but I am to the point where it is not performing as expected. and there<br>
for I request help to figure out why.<br>
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so to understand your saying because I have them in sync mode it will<br>
not cp the needed data from these dir even if you go to the dir and the<br>
data is there.<br>
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so how do I get the data for these dir onto the usb drive. because when<br>
I take the extra step of re mounting the drive and doing a manual cp -rp<br>
of /usr/local/freeswitch and /usr/share/nginx/www/fusionpbx to their<br>
matching dir on /mnt all the data gets cp fine.<br>
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