[Voyage-linux] A Cheaper Motherboard

[Solomon Asare]

Hi All,
it looks like there are some good news after all.
According to: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrapeol.htm
cheaper alternatives are on the way. Grapevine
suggests $60.

I hope it will not be too long.

Regards,
solo.

--- Kim-man 'Punky' TSE <punkytse at punknix.com> wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> 
> Yes, I have the same thought.  Over the weekend, I
> have tried out OE and 
> here is my initial findings:
> 
> - Multi-arch build is easy, as it builds from
> scratch, even the 
> cross-compile toolchain.
> - It has to build *everything* and requires a lot of
> CPU and diskspace 
> in my build machine (remember I used uml for all
> voyage development?).  
> I am now thinking of buying a new build machine -
> may be a older version 
> Mac Mini.
> - The wireless part (hostapd, madwifi-modules) seems
> to be un-maintained 
> - needs few more hacks to get it build as there are
> inter-dependency at 
> build time (same problem in debian as well, but
> someone had solved it).
> - customized kernel-build needs more investigation -
> seems not straight 
> forward.
> 
> My investigation does not necessary mean Voyage will
> switch to OE 
> platform.  It will only be a new thing.  Voyage will
> still be offered as 
> free software as it is today and ties to Debian.  It
> is not going to change.
> 
> Regards,
> Punky
> 
> Matthias Lemke wrote:
> > then should "open embedded" be the first choice...
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> > Kim-man 'Punky' TSE schrieb:
> >   
> >> Hi Solomon,
> >>
> >> I seems impossible to get a lower price x86-based
> embedded board.
> >> Other non-x86 embedded boards in MIP, ARM or
> XScale architecture does
> >> not have enough flash size for storing the
> disk-space hungry Debian. 
> >> With squashfs+unionfs we've seen in Live CD, we
> can't have a distro
> >> lower than ~30MB.  Even with squashfs with lzma
> support, it also can't
> >> lower than 25MB.
> >>
> >> If Voyage is going to support non-x86 borads, it
> will not be Debian
> >> anymore, and it can't be called Voyage either, as
> Voyage Linux implies
> >> Debian-based distro.
> >> Regards,
> >> Punky
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Solomon Asare wrote:
> >>     
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I use lots of mikrotik products myself and they
> are
> >>> excellent if all you need is a wireless/router
> without
> >>> any special/unique customisation that you may
> want to
> >>> roll out yourself. And the 112 is competitively
> >>> priced.
> >>>
> >>> A licence upgrade, if required, after expiration
> of
> >>> the one your 112 board came with, will set you
> back by
> >>> about $40 at a latter date.
> >>>
> >>> Moreover, my competitors are also using Mikrotik
> or
> >>> cheaper alternatives and I was wondering if,
> with a
> >>> cheaper mboard + flash + memory and voyage, I
> can put
> >>> together a radio more competitively. I am almost
> at
> >>> the point where I may have to give the radio out
> and
> >>> make money on monthly bandwidth charges which
> are not
> >>> much.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> solomon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- Andrew Niemantsverdriet
> <andrew at pure-wireless.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>       
> >>>> Check out the routerboard 112. It has board
> memory
> >>>> and flash for $99. My
> >>>> research and development budget ran out for
> this
> >>>> quater otherwise I would
> >>>> get one and see what can be done with it.
> Anyway
> >>>> here is a link:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.routerboard.com/prices.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Has anybody used these? Do they work? The
> cheapest I
> >>>> can build a wrap is
> >>>> $127 not including a radio or enclosure. And
> that is
> >>>> in quantiy 10.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will be interested to hear of others if there
> are
> >>>> any.
> >>>>
> >>>>    
> >>>>         
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>> to make voyage more attractive as a
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> Wireless/Router OS
> >>>>    
> >>>>         
> >>>>> I guess we need a cheaper embedded
> motherboard.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please, does anyone have any suggestions apart
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> from
> >>>>    
> >>>>         
> >>>>> WRAP?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it possible to get say a ($60 - $80) board
> +
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> memory
> >>>>    
> >>>>         
> >>>>> + flash that can support a client? Pentium 200
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> should
> >>>>    
> >>>>         
> >>>>> be more than adequate. Any links?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> solomon.
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
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> >>     
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Punky
> 
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